ASTROLOGY – Heliocentric or Geocentric Model


In this post, we are going to analyze about the popular myth that Astrology supports geocentric theory, i.e earth is the center of the solar system with Sun and other planets revolving around earth. With this single mis-interpretation, many come to the conclusion that Astrology is not scientific. I would like to stress the point from the earlier post that Astrology is the study of planetary influence on human life on earth. Hence earth is taken as the point of observation. This has lead to the myth that astrology supports geocentric theory. As an student of astrology I strongly believe that the ancient seers on India who authored Astrology, who could calculate planetary positions for past, present and future, who had divine knowledge; certainly could have known that planets including earth revolved around the Sun. But science demands reason, logic and evidence. This article is dedicated to all those science lovers who are willing to analyze, think logically and decide for themselves.

Let us look deep into the horoscope and try to figure out what was the understanding, our ancient Astrologer had about the solar system. Horoscope is nothing but the position of planets as seen from Earth(which is why you see Earth is  marked in the center of the horoscope shown below) at a particular time mapped in a frame of reference called Zodiac. For info on the Zodiac, please refer the previous post. Earth is the point of observation or the point where humans are located, hence it is completely logical that for the study of Planetary influence on human life, Earth is taken to be the center point of the horoscope, but that itself doesn’t mean that other planets are revolving around the Earth.


The definition of Geocentric model say that the “Earth is the center of the universe, and that all other objects orbit around it. The stars, sun, and planets appear to revolve around the Earth each day”. Firstly, in Astrology Earth is the center of observation and not the center of universe. Secondly none of the planets in a horoscope complete one revolution around the zodiac in a single day. Let us take Sun for example, if Sun was revolving around earth, by observation through naked eye we know that Sun travels around the east to west in half a day and come back to eastern horizon the next day morning. Hence Sun should take one day to travel around the earth, which is what Geocentric theory says. But in a horoscope as illustrated above(Click on image to enlarge) casted for two different dates, that is not true, for Sun to come back to the same point in Zodiac, it take one year. Hence it is obvious that Astrologer were aware of the fact that either Earth takes one year to revolve around the Sun or Sun takes one year to revolve around the earth, which we haven’t concluded yet. In fact none of the planets in a horoscope completes a full round in one day.

The above table compares the period of revolution of planets around Sun and in a zodiac as observed from earth which is the horoscope. As you can see that for outer orbit planets(compared to earth) the period of revolution around Sun and in horoscope matches exactly. For inner orbit planets there is a slight deviation which we will see later. The fourth column is very interesting. All planets in horoscope moves in the clockwise direction, but while in retrograde motion, they move in the reverse direction for certain period of time and then continue to move in their usual clockwise direction. You can imagine retrograde motion to an overtaking car, while overtaking with respect to the speeding car the slower car appears to move backward. In a circular/elliptical revolution, if for example Saturn were to revolve around Earth, there is no possibility of retrograde motion however elliptical the path may be. Saturn could be seen moving slower or faster at apogee and perigee but never in the reverse direction. Retrograde motion is possible only when there is a relative motion between two objects revolving around the third object, which proves beyond any doubt that Astrology doesn’t fit into Geocentric theory. It is interesting to note that only Sun and Moon doesn’t have retrograde motion as seen from Earth, because one is revolving around the other object.

Outer orbit planets(Saturn, Jupiter, Mars) have retrograde motion once in year when they are exactly opposite to Sun in the horoscope, which clearly shows that they are revolving around the Sun. Recalling the fact that Earth is in the center of the horoscope, when Saturn is opposite to Sun in the horoscope means; Sun, Earth and Saturn line up in a straight line. We also know that the outer orbit planets takes longer time to revolve around the Sun. Hence when Earth which is moving faster compared to the outer orbit planet, overtakes Saturn momentarily Saturn appears to retrogate(move backward) as seen from Earth.

Let us come to Mercury and Venus. Astrology calls these planets as inferior orbit planets or inner orbit planets. If you take a horoscope for any point in time, we can always notice that Mercury is within 60 degrees from that of Sun and Venus is with-in 90 degrees from Sun. Also, if we observe the position of Mercury, Venus and Sun for different date and time in a horoscope, we can observe that Mercury and Venus are moving to and forth across the Sun. The too and forth movement across the Sun clearly indicates that Mercury and Venus are revolving around the Sun. That is the reason why as seen from earth(Column-3), the period of revolution of Mecury and Venus is approximately 1 year coinciding with Sun’s movement. If I am able to understand this, I don’t believe that our super intelligent Astrologers couldn’t.

Last and interesting is our Moon. Moon can be understood to be the closest object to earth by it mere size as seen from Earth. Moon doesn’t have retrograde motion, hence it can’t be an outer orbit planet. Moon doesn’t go too & forth across Sun, hence it can’t be an inner orbit planet. Moon is the fastest moving object in the horoscope. Moon revolving around earth can be inferred from the fact that Lunar and Solar eclipse occur within a gap of 15 days, i.e for Moon to come from behind the Earth to between earth and Sun it takes 15 days, and for one complete revolution around earth take 30 days as can be seen in the horoscope.

Now we know that Earth has a relative motion and to calculate the position of a particular planet in future, you need to know, not only the motion of the other planet but also that of earth. Observing Sun and Moons movement from Earth is straight forward, because we are dealing with bilateral movement of two objects (Sun-Earth, Moon-Earth). But when dealing with Mecury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Venus, we are observing the movement of two objects (eg Mercury revolving around Sun) from a third object which is Earth, hence the complexity of calculations increases, since for calculating the movement of Mercury(as seen from earth), the movement of earth should also be taken into consideration. Our Astrologers have mastered all these movements and were able to calculate the position of planets as seen from earth for any point of time in past, present and future. How were they able to do this, without a telescope or any other equipment, is it possible without deep understanding of the Solar system? Whether to call it mystic science or divine knowledge is up to you.

To summarize, astrology perfectly fits into the heliocentric model of Solar system. Horoscope focuses movement of all objects with reference to Earth, incorporating the knowledge of movement of planets around Sun including that of Earth.

– Written by Saravana Kumar G



Astrology and Theory of Karma

Astrology and Karma are interrelated and hence one cannot appreciate astrology unless understand the concept of Karma. Do we decide our parents or parents gave us life? Is this universe is ruled by laws (certain) or chance? Does soul have death? Does Newton’s third law (for every action there will be equal and opposite reaction) hold good for life? All these questions are interrelated with each other when we try to understand about the concept of Karma. Karma theory is the most important phenomenon without which no one can explain the disparities in human life.

Universe is operating in certain harmony; nature is always working to restore equilibrium when the harmony is disturbed by man’s act. Similar to man with his action trying to bend a stick and stick will automatically regain to its original state. So Karma neither rewards nor punishes, it only restores its lost harmony. It is the man who suffer or rejoice based on his past acts. If someone do bodily or wordily harm to other, the person has to suffer for the same (If Newton’s law ‘for every action there will be equal and opposite reaction’ holds good for every object then it should also be true for every thought and action).

Man’s present existence is mere repetition of his previous existence connecting the past with the future. So any action performed by man may fructify in a minute or day or a year or in a life or in several life. Collective actions performed by everyone will remain in the form of something unseen till the time of fructification (Refer Jung’s collective unconscious for better understanding).  According to karma theory when one dies his soul which is enveloped in a subtle body and invested with sum of total good and bad actions/thoughts passes in to another physical body based on deeds done by him in his previous life and continues its journey until emancipation. So the statement parent gave us life becomes absurd. Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao observes this “Before the birth of child, it has karma to its credit and as a result of that karma it takes birth in a particular family with particular surroundings, special physical features and noticeable mental inclination”.

Great thinkers, philosophers, composers and genius are repetition of other thinkers, philosophers, composers who died on other stars or earth. Karma theory explains why there is significant difference between two people born on same time (Even twin brothers who born and brought up in same environment). To conclude, one should not consider karma as limiting factor of life instead should understand that in born intellectual are because of this cause effect phenomenon.

Many think that astrology and karma limit us to believe in fatalism and leaves no space for growth. My next post will be around this and some of other misconception.

–          Elango Annamalai & Muthu Vijayan Elango


1)      Planetary influence on Human affairs by Dr. B.V. Raman

2)      Karma and Rebirth by Christmas Humphreys

Introduction to Astrology

The above diagram is the horoscope of a famous personality. What can we tell from it? We can tell whether the person was born at night or day, we can tell what time of the day the person was born, we can tell whether it was waning moon or waxing moon on that day, and one step further we can tell the date of birth of the person. Well a lot of more things can be said. Suppose we are at the age before calendars we invented, just by seeing the above diagram, we can tell whether it was summer or winter, we can tell when the next eclipse will occur, etc. Are you wondering what a horoscope is, well horoscope is nothing but the map of the sky or position of planets at the time of birth of the person.

You may be wondering, if I am talking about astronomy or astrology. The answer is both. Astrology and Astronomy always go hand in hand, in modern times since Astronomy is proven by modern science and because it covers objects outside our solar system, it was separated into a separate science. But astrology remains a mystic science and doesn’t command much respect among modern thinkers as astronomy does. If we see the history careful, all the prominent astronomers had belief in astrology like Aryabhatta, Newton, Galileo, Keppler. I would call astrology a mystic science not because it is false, but because of the inability of modern science to prove it. May be that is the way God wanted it to be.

Various cultures and traditions have different forms of astrology eg. Vedic(Indian), Chinese, Egyptian, Western astrology, etc. I would be talking about the Indian astrology, one I am familiar with. The origin of astrology is not known yet; some believe it exists since 3000BC. There are many reference in Mahabharata about astrology, in fact one of the Pandavas (Sahadeva) was an expert astrologer. From the astronomical evidences given in Mahabharata, the Kurushetra war has been dated to 1000BC. There are evidences in history, of astrologers having predicted the nature of death of Alexander the great, Julius Caesar and Napoleon. The predictions of Dr.B.V.Raman, during the Second World War were astonishingly true. There are very many facts that prove Astrology can withstand the test of time.

Before Keppler could formulate the planetary motion, before Newton could discover the gravitation force, before Galileo could prove Heliocentric model, and even before westerns were arguing about a spherical earth, ancient Indian astrologers were able to calculate not only the current position of planets, but accurate position of planets in past, present and future. It is a common practice even today of astrologer giving planetary position for the coming year and some for a decade ahead using the same old method in what is called a Panchang. There are two main steps in Astrology before coming to the point of giving predictions, one is casting the horoscope for the birth time of the individual, second is the  studying the impact on the individual based on the position of the planets. The first step is unquestionably accurate and has been proven by modern science but the second step is yet to derive (modern) science explanation.  It is not fair to blindly reject the astrological work of such great Maharishis like Parasara, Varahamira, etc who had deep understanding of the universe.

Earth is under the influence of numerous heavenly bodies, particularly the sun, moon and other planets in the solar system because of their size and proximity to earth. Tides, volcanoes, earthquakes, and many other physical phenomenons is a result of these influences. It is logical that the planets can influence man on earth, since human body is made up of earthly mater like water, iron, calcium, etc. It is a known fact that lunatics (lunar – moon, lunatic – mentally ill person) become hyper active on full moon days.

Late Dr.B.V.Raman, a modern day astrologer has renewed enthusiasm in astrology. He has written many books explaining the science behind astrology. The purpose of this article is not to bring in belief in astrology but to make you think rationally before rejecting this conventional belief. Today’s astrologers cannot be compared with the ancient day’s astrologers who didn’t need a telescope or satellite to see the world as it is. Interpretation of one’s horoscope depends on the astrologer’s skill; of course it is not an easy task to master this divine skill. If some predictions go wrong it is solely due to the astrologer’s misinterpretation and not that astrology is defective.

A quote from B.V.Raman to conclude with

Those who know Astrology can only indicate in a way what will take place in future. Who else, except the Creator, Brahma, can say with certainty what will definitely happen?” – B. V. Raman

-Saravana Kumar G (Author of this article)

Welcome To Innovative Astro Solutions

If you are a rational person who is curious to know the details of any subject without blindly rejecting it on first step then Welcome! you are on the right page. The aim of Innovative Astro Solutions is not only to provide astrological consulting to the people but also to help modern thinkers to derive and apply astrological rules to suit current environment. I will be writing series of articles based on my 40 years of humble experience on this subject for the benefit of learners of Astrology. Also you can see guest articles from some of research scholars in this subject. As a closing note i would like to thank my Guru for all his blessing without which i would have not travel such a long journey.